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When you get a bunch of people who can write well, stick ’em together in a room discussing topics, the quips that emerge from twitter can be condensed 140-character-or-less gems. (How to follow ScienceOnline2011  from a distance is in an earlier post.)

Here’s random selection from the #scio11 twitter stream.I’m offering these partly as conversation starters–feel free to response with what you think on any of them. I’ve included a few I don’t agree with: these are conversation starters / food for thought.

My list is random as the rate tweets pop up on #scio11, one man (woman) simply can’t keep up… They’re not necessarily in chronological order, either. To make matters worse, the meeting has parallel streams; in places I’ve tried to clarify or add asides by adding comments in square brackets (emboldened text to make them easier to locate).

(To my complete frustration the cut’n’pasting into Firefox isn’t ’clean’ and has made a right mess of any formatting, resulting in an amateur layout just to get it out without more time wasted, which, as you can guess, annoys me.  I’m guessing my trial of Firefox may be over sooner rather than later :-/)

So… a few of the tweets thus far:

@docfreeride: A science blog is like porn: hard to define but I know it when I see it. + only need one hand to click through? #scio11

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. @sheril_ Olivia Judson: having a blog is like having a pet dragon; you always have to feed it and sometimes you get burned #scio11

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. @sheril_ When you get vindictive comments, sometimes have to close the computer and remember that’s where they live #scio11

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CameronNeylon CameronNeylon by Kubke
It’s back down to rewards for actually having your research outputs _used_. That will get us to more efficient/more open science #scio11 [on-going discussion of science metrics - how you measure output, etc. I may blog on this later as I worry all the discussion on metrics is missing a more basic point.]
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edyong209 Ed Yong
Don’t expect reader to know what you wrote about last week – - don’t start post in middle of the story #scio1
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edyong209 Ed Yong
Introduce concepts when you need to in a story, rather than having all of them up front so that ppl need to hold them in mind #scio11
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lousycanuck Jason Thibeault by lucasbrouwers
Linear ascent of man evolution picture iconic, but very wrong. Many abstractions of biology are incorrect but not bad to laypeople #scio11 [Fellow scibling Alison has a fair bit to say on this matter.]
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David_Dobbs David Dobbs by drdrAatBLC
Ppl recognize value of informal sci comm, but seems weird to put even on CV, much less consider for tenure. #scio11 #opensci [part of metrics discussion.]
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kzelnio Kevin Zelnio by KateClancy“The big enemy is the journal impact factor, whichever altmetric brings that down the fastest is the best to me”

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David_Dobbs David Dobbs by bachinsky
How many scientists would put # of retweets on their CV? Or # of twitter followers?
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minjae Minjae Ormes
As a reader I appreciate seeing behind-the-scenes bits from science organizations via blogs, social media in casual, engaging tone.
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docfreeride Janet D. Stemwedel

@DNLee5 notes that “like” button can give additional info on who you’re reaching (since commenting rates are typically low)
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johnlogsdon John Logsdon RT @oystersgarter #scio11 bloggers value comments way more than readers. Readers trying to find out something, not interested in interacting

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johnbendevette John Ben DeVette Alt-metrics. Hong Kong Univ’s library created RESEARCHER PAGES http://tinyurl.com/6k3zo4l

Includes alt-metrics. ie: blogging
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CameronNeylon CameronNeylon
@Kubke Keeping your job, paying the mortgage, getting the next grant? Those are the things that worry most researchers most [part of metrics discussion, but has wider impact.]
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skoch3 Steven J. Koch by hleman

#altmetrics #scio11 Mendeley should allow for article rating (as on Amazon), but allow the ratings to be private if… http://ff.im/wz9dZ
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StacyCBaker Stacy Baker

by highlyanne
Do science journalists ever think to look at sci education research to understand how to write about science for an audience?
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minjae Minjae Ormes

by DaveMosher
RT @laelaps: .@Boraz Personal blogs more like living rooms. Major media blogs like public squares. Generate diff commenting cultures
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DoctorZen Zen Faulkes by oceanshaman

“Will open science be norm w next generation of scientist?” asked @biochembelle My reply is too long to tweet: http://bit.ly/hAsbbH
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bonnieswoger Bonnie Swoger It’s not really clear why you need 1000s of citation styles – Martin Fenner [Now that's an understatement.]

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Colo_kea Kea Giles (Asmus) @DNLee5 says As a niche blogger, you are an expert. At least you know how to send people to better source (you’re the one they see

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Comprendia Comprendia by BoraZ

Both new and experienced science bloggers struggle with the amt of authority they’re given and ‘imposter syndrome,’ not fitting in
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Dr_Bik Holly Bik by NerdyChristie

<50% of sci grads want academic jobs. Maybe because the job race is such a stressful Darwinian ‘survival of the fittest” race?
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docfreeride Janet D. Stemwedel Diff not MSM vs. blogging but whether author engages with audience (back&forth, not one-shot) or not. [But see next tweet.]

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lousycanuck Jason Thibeault Freelancer might be overwhelmed by flood of comments on an article. Might be there’s a technical fix, but it’s a human problem

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minjae Minjae Ormes

by jgold85
RT @lousycanuck: #scio11 – use “<acronym>” or “<abbr>” tag if you’re wondering how to do glossary tags, bloggers. Just FYI. :)
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sethmnookin Seth Mnookin Theme at #scio11 – problem of online echo chambers & how can obscure efforts to reach broad audience

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Laelaps Brian Switek

by jgold85
.@edyong209 You may write for a general audience, but common commenters might be specialists. Might intimidate lay readers
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Laelaps Brian Switek .@edyong209 Commenting communities act differently to same posts. Post may get no comments on blog, but might blow up on Facebook [I’ve had this. I wish people starting conversations about a blog article would inform the blog author. Blogs are more personal the MSM and authors do want to know what's being said about their articles.]

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docfreeride Janet D. Stemwedel People may end up engaging with the title, first paragraph or 2; can’t count on them reading whole article before engaging [I’ve blogged about this.]

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Dr_Bik Holly Bik
Amen! RT @jackiefloyd: scientists should write two abstracts for their papers. one for scientists and and one for everyone else. [PLoS ONE already does this.]
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scicom_bot SciCom Robot RT @kateclancy @alicebell: “can’t draw circle too small around science communication and critique”

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docfreeride Janet D. Stemwedel @mcshanahan found her science ed students treated blog posts as 1-way transmission of info, not interactive discussion [It can be frustrating when commenters comes in only asking for information, rather than discussing. Can feel demanding to blogger.]

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drval drval

by KeyonRMitchell
Yong: “The fun part of science [writing]is trying to find alternate explanations for things.”
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johnlogsdon John Logsdon @oystersgarter: #scio11 bloggers value comments way more than readers. Readers trying to find out something, not interested in interacting [True?]

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imascientist Sophia Collins

by campusprclare
Main take homes: avoid jargon, simpler the better, ask yr audience who they are, talk to the readers you *want*, see what they want
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scio11 ScienceOnline2011 #scio11 FOUND: a cute purple hat plus a blue and purple scarf. Come to the registration to claim [OK, who owned the purple hat?]

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physilology Michelle Well, weirdos tend to find me through twitter more often. RT @docfreeride: How has tweeting influenced audience for your blog? #scio11

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Colo_kea Kea Giles (Asmus) I wish more people would comment on my blog posts. Why is there a barrier there? What discourages commenting? Platform? Mindset? [A real FAQ, this one.]

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CameronNeylon CameronNeylon

by scio11
Can someone raise issue of the “politeness” of open peer review around Arsenic paper vs more polite response to P<>NP? #scio11 cf culture
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mfenner Martin Fenner
by cboettig
Background reading about the need for reproducible research by Victoria Stodden http://j.mp/ecFrrQ [This is a topic I've touched on a couple of times on the blog.]
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younglandis Ben Young Landis #scio11 @jasonHoyt: if I do my job right, no one will care about publishing in Nature Science Cell… [Hmm…]

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jokrausdu Joe Kraus Some blogs live under the rotational crop theory — it is ok if a blog is dormant for a little while.

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CameronNeylon CameronNeylon
@David_Dobbs Cheers. I think its important to note that env. for research funding is also changing faster than our res. culture is
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easternblot Eva Finding I’m getting the most relevant #scio11 distant experience by ignoring Twitter and just looking at Ustream talks with chat in there.

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kzelnio Kevin Zelnio

by younglandis
@Epigenetique @PHLane I’ve always had an outreach section on my CV and it has been viewed favorably by those I’ve interacted with
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Kubke Fabiana Kubke

@CameronNeylon But that is what science is about. If you dont care about the long term, then what is the point?

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kellyraechi kellyraechi
Bumper sticker spotted in the parking lot at #scio11: “honk if you understand punctuated equilibrium”
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OK. That’s enough of a taster. In the time I gathered that lot, the #scio11 crowd published over 750 more tweets. It’s not possible for me to cover all the tweets I’ve missed overnight, either (those I show as from a couple of hours of the meeting).

Updated to embolden my comments to make them easier to find.


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