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		<title>Is and ought</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ken Perrott</dc:creator>
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<p><a href="http://openparachute.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/moralsign349.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-9980" style="margin:10px;" title="moralsign349" src="http://openparachute.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/moralsign349.jpg?w=280&#038;h=387" alt="" width="280" height="387" /></a>I have been watching some of the videos from the Edge seminar <a href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/morality10/morality10_index.html">THE NEW SCIENCE OF MORALITY</a>. There will eventually be about 10 hours of talks and discussions posted on the Edge site. From the few presentations I have seen so far this looks to have been a fascinating seminar.</p>
<p>Partly because the science is relatively new &#8211; but also because there has been a lot of progress made. However, there are of course areas which promote intense discussion. I get the impression, for example, that several of the participants wish to challenge to dogma that one can&#8217;t determine an ought from an is. It&#8217;s going to be interesting to see that debate played out.</p>
<h2>WEIRD culture and reasoning</h2>
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<p>Jonathon Haidt was the first speaker and made some interesting points about the relevance of a science centred largely around specialists from advanced western countries. He is using the acronym WIERD for the orientation around cultures in the Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich and Democratic (WEIRD) societies. This analysis comes from a recent paper <em><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1601785">The weirdest people in the world ?</a> </em>by J Henrich, SJ Heine and A Norenzayan. Those authors say<em> &#8220;we need to be less cavalier in addressing questions of human  nature, on  the basis of data drawn from this particularly thin and  rather unusual  slice of humanity.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Haidt also discusses some fallacies about human reasoning. <em>&#8220;The puzzle is, why are humans so amazingly bad at reasoning in some contexts, and so amazingly good in others?&#8221;</em> Again he refers to a recent paper by Mercier and Sperber &#8211; <em><a href="http://hugo.mercier.googlepages.com/MercierSperberWhydohumansreason.pdf">Why do humans reason ? Arguments for an argumentative theory</a>. </em>This is an interesting paper discussing human problems like confirmation bias, the human problem of search for evidence to support an preconceived conclusion.</p>
<p>Obviously both these problems are very relevant to a seminar like this. Go to the Edge site for a video of Jonothan&#8217;s presentation or download and audio file (<a href="http://blip.tv/file/get/EdgeFoundation-TheNewScienceOfMoralityJonathanHaidt848.mp3">MP3 Audio Download — Jonathan Haidt Talk</a>).</p>
<h2>Sam Harris and a role for science</h2>
<p>As Sam Harris was one of the participants the seminar will surely have also discussed his ideas on the role of science in determining right and wrong. He presented these ideas in two recent lectures and they resulted in a lot of discussion, and controversy, on a number of scientific blogs (see <a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/can-science-answer-moral-questions/">Can science answer moral questions?</a> and <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrA-8rTxXf0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrA-8rTxXf0</a>).</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a great TED talk by <a class="zem_slink" title="Sam Harris (author)" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Harris_%28author%29">Sam Harris</a>. He is well known for his best selling books <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393327655?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0393327655">The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason</a><img style="border:none!important;margin:0!important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=kenperrott&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0393327655" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></em> and its follow-up <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307278778?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0307278778">Letter to a Christian Nation</a><img style="border:none!important;margin:0!important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=kenperrott&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0307278778" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></em>. But he has recently been researching the neuroscience of morality and ethics. Sam has a a degree in  philosophy from Stanford and a Ph.D. in neuroscience from  UCLA. He is  the co-founder and CEO of <a href="http://www.project-reason.org/" >Project Reason</a>, a nonprofit devoted to   spreading scientific knowledge and secular values in society.</p>
<p>Harris has a new book coming out in November &#8211; <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1439171211?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1439171211">The  Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values</a><img style="border:none!important;margin:0!important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=kenperrott&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1439171211" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" />. </em>It should be fascinating.</p>
<h2><span id="more-8143"></span>A fact-based morality</h2>
<p>He is certainly in good form in this video. He argues for a fact-based morality which enables moral logic and decisions. This conflicts with ideas of moral relativism and god-given morality, or &#8220;objective morality.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think his arguments are important. Science has made important progress in researching the evolutionary origins of moral intuitions and their role in today&#8217;s morality. But very few people have argued for recognition of a fact-base morality, an objectively-based morality, underpinning moral logical and a sense of universal moral truth. This is not the same as the objective morality&#8221; arguments of religious apologists or divine command morality theory of conservative Christians. I have argued before that these are just covers for a morality based on arbitrary will and obedience. That it leads to justification for some of the worst forms of  moral relativism (see <em><a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/human-morality-i-religious-confusion/">Human Morality I: Religious confusion</a>, <a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/human-morality-ii-objective-morality/">II: Objective morality</a>, <a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/human-morality-part-iii-moral-intuition/">III: Moral intuition</a>, <a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/human-morality-part-iv-role-of-religion/">IV: Role of religion</a> </em>and<a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/human-morality-v-the-secular-conscience/"> <em>V: The secular conscience</em></a><em>).</em></p>
<p>Anyway, watch the video. I am sure you will find it interesting and stimulating.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>See also</strong></span><strong>: </strong><a href="http://metamagician3000.blogspot.com/2010/03/sam-harris-on-science-and-morality.html">Sam Harris on science and morality</a> by Russell Blackford</p>
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<p>A great feature of the scientific endeavour is that our ideas, hypotheses and theories are usually tested against reality. In fact we get very worried when we can&#8217;t do this. Consequently there has been some philosophical discussion and concern around speculative ideas or hypotheses like string theory (really hypotheses not theories) and the multiple universe ideas.</p>
<p>But, in some areas of philosophy and theology reality can safely be ignored. And here all sorts of weird and wonderful preconceived ideas can get justified  using a logic which basically boils down to mental gymnastics. I have always found debate with post modernists and theologians is a bit like jelly wrestling. Without reality to fall back on anything goes.</p>
<p>The philosopher of science <a class="zem_slink" title="Daniel Dennett" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett">Daniel Dennett</a> gave an interesting talk, &#8220;The evolution of Confusion,&#8221; on theological justification at the <a class="zem_slink" title="Atheist Alliance International" rel="homepage" href="http://www.atheistalliance.org/">Atheist Alliance International</a> convention last month. Its based on his new project interviewing clergyman who secretly don&#8217;t believe anymore. Atheist clergymen are probably far more common than we might think. And all clergymen have problems in their profession which require theological arguments to resolve, or at least to patch up for the moment. This leads to a weird style of logic and argument &#8211; hence my feeling of jelly wrestling.</p>
<p>This is a fascinating talk. I understand the research will be published soon. Hopefully it will also be available in a popular format like a book.</p>
<p>Dan Dennett is the author of many excellent books, including &#8220;<a class="zem_slink" title="Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon" rel="amazon" href="http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spell-Religion-Natural-Phenomenon/dp/0143038338%3FSubscriptionId%3D0G81C5DAZ03ZR9WH9X82%26tag%3Dzemanta-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0143038338">Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon</a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a class="zem_slink" title="Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life" rel="amazon" href="http://www.amazon.com/Darwins-Dangerous-Idea-Evolution-Meanings/dp/068482471X%3FSubscriptionId%3D0G81C5DAZ03ZR9WH9X82%26tag%3Dzemanta-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D068482471X">Darwin&#8217;s Dangerous Idea</a>&#8220;. He is also featured in the video &#8220;T<a href="http://richarddawkins.net/article,2025,THE-FOUR-HORSEMEN,Discussions-With-Richard-Dawkins-Episode-1-RDFRS" >he Four Horsemen</a>&#8221; along with <a class="zem_slink" title="Richard Dawkins" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins">Richard Dawkins</a>, <a class="zem_slink" title="Sam Harris (author)" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Harris_%28author%29">Sam Harris</a> and <a class="zem_slink" title="Christopher Hitchens" rel="musicbrainz" href="http://musicbrainz.org/artist/b56415e7-c2d5-4a1f-af56-afacb58c244b.html">Christopher Hitchens</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_9w8JougLQ&amp;feature=player_embedded">&#8216;The Evolution of Confusion&#8217; by Dan Dennett, AAI 2009</a>.<br />
<em><a href="http://richarddawkins.net/article,4547,n,n" >From RichardDawkins.net</a>: &#8216;Dan Dennett talks about purposely-confusing theology and how it&#8217;s used. He also describes his new project interviewing clergyman who secretly don&#8217;t believe anymore, and introduces a new term: &#8220;Deepity.&#8221;&#8216;</em></p>
<p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_9w8JougLQ</p>
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<p><em><strong>Book Review:</strong> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591027519?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1591027519">The New Atheism: Taking a Stand for Science and Reason</a><img style="border:none!important;margin:0!important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=kenperrott&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1591027519" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> by Victor Stenger<br />
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<p>This book is timely. The “New Atheism” hit our awareness in the mid-part of the decade when Sam Harris’s book <em>“<a class="zem_slink" title="THE END OF FAITH" rel="amazon" href="http://www.amazon.com/END-FAITH-Sam-Harris/dp/0743268091%3FSubscriptionId%3D0G81C5DAZ03ZR9WH9X82%26tag%3Dzemanta-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0743268091">The End of Faith</a>”</em> became a best-seller. This was quickly followed by more best-sellers from the authors <a class="zem_slink" title="Daniel Dennett" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett">Daniel Dennett</a>, <a class="zem_slink" title="Richard Dawkins" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins">Richard Dawkins</a>, <a class="zem_slink" title="Christopher Hitchens" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens">Christopher Hitchens</a> and Victor Stenger (the author of this book). And then there was the response. Many books have been written, mostly be theists, attacking the “New Atheists.” Although none of the later was a best-seller they did suggest that a new stage in the religion-atheism debate was underway.</p>
<p>Stenger&#8217;s new book is also useful because it helps put this whole debate in context. He summarises that nature of the “New Atheism movement” (although it is hardly a movement as there was no coordination in publishing these books). He briefly summarises the arguments of the “New Atheism” and the arguments employed by those attacking “New Atheism.” Then he shows the fallacies in the arguments employed by the “New Christians.” In some cases he reveals the way many of the “New Atheist” positions have been distorted and misrepresented. In others he deals with the substance of these arguments – particularly those dealing with scientific issues.</p>
<p>As an Emeritus Professor of Physics and Astronomy at the University of Hawaii and Adjunct Professor of Philosophy at the University of Colorado   Stenger is an ideal person to write on this subject</p>
<h2><strong><span id="more-5857"></span>The nature of New Atheism</strong></h2>
<p>Most of the New Atheists recognise the 2001 religiously motivated terrorist attacks in New York helped spur them to action. I suspect they were also reacting against the religious bullying characteristic of the time. Islamic threats to authors like Salman Rushdie and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Christian Right attacks on abortion rights, gender rights, stem cell research and teaching evolutionary science.</p>
<p>I am somewhat cynical about the term “New Atheism” – as if we had suddenly discovered the subject. And the label has probably come from the critics, anyway. But there are some specific characteristics to the current wave of atheist revival worthy mentioning.</p>
<p>Stenger points out the well-known New Atheists are mostly science based. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Harris_%28author%29">Sam Harris</a> (<em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393327655?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0393327655">The End of Faith</a> &#8211; 2004</em> and <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307278778?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0307278778">Letter to a Christian Nation</a> &#8211; 2006)</em> has a degree in philosophy and is working on a Ph D in neuroscience. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins">Richard Dawkins</a> <em>(<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0618918248?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0618918248">The God Delusion</a> &#8211; 2006)</em> is a well-known biologist with years of research and science popularisation behind him. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Stenger">Victor J. Stenger</a> <em>(<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591026520?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1591026520">God: The Failed Hypothesis</a> &#8211; 2007)</em> has a long research career in physics and astronomy and has written several books popularising and defending science. <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett">Daniel Dennett</a> (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0143038338?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0143038338">Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon</a> &#8211; 2006)</em> is a philosopher of science who has written extensively on scientific subjects. And while <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens">Christopher Hitchens</a> <em>(<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446579807?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0446579807">God Is Not Great</a> &#8211; 2007) </em>is not a scientist he does defend and use science in his debates.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali">Ayaan Hirsi Ali</a> <em>(<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743289692?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0743289692">Infidel</a> &#8211; 2006)</em> is sometimes included as a New Atheist. While her professional qualifications are in humanities rather than science she identifies strongly with many of the positions taken by the others.</p>
<h2><strong>New Atheist issues</strong></h2>
<p>These include:</p>
<p><strong>God is a scientific question</strong>: After all science studies reality, statements of fact. This is implicitly conceded by many religious apologists who use science-based reasoning such as the “fine-tuning” and “big bang” arguments for the existence of their gods. Most theologians, however, strongly oppose this, preferring to keep their god safe from scientific investigation.</p>
<p><strong>Religious claims should not be protected by false respect:</strong> They call for such claims to be discussed, debated and submitted to rational inquiry in the same way we do with scientific, political and sporting claims. Religion should not be allowed to make claims about reality but deny rational investigation of such claims. Faith should not be given a free pass.</p>
<p>This assertiveness is a characteristic feature of the “New Atheists” – one which has annoyed some other atheists as well as believers. Even some atheists accept the argument that religion has a special place and its claims should be protected against rational inquiry and normal human discussion.</p>
<p><strong>Faith itself is a problem:</strong> Even when held by moderates. Promotion, even glorification, of faith is dangerous as it provides a base for extremists to justify antihuman actions. To some extent even the moderate believers must bear responsibility for supporting extremism if they promote faith against reason.</p>
<p><strong>Proud defence of science and reason:</strong> They will assert these principles and oppose any attempt to make a place for those who wish to undermine science or claim territory for religion that it doesn’t deserve. This has helped disperse the idea that science and religion should be placed in separate compartments, “non-overlapping magisterial (NOMA)” (see <a href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/../2007/09/25/morals-values-and-the-limits-of-science/">Morals, values and the limits of science</a>).</p>
<p>Stenger describes the position of many scientists and their organisations that science has nothing to say about gods and the supernatural as disingenuous. This is important today when religious apologists try to distort and misrepresent science to provide “evidence” for their gods.</p>
<p><strong>Consciousness-raising:</strong> They have all been active in the consciousness-raising of people for atheism and reason. Their books, appearances, videos, lectures, etc., attract huge attention and have helped atheists to “come out” and publicly acknowledge their beliefs.</p>
<p><strong>Human and democratic rights:</strong> The “New Atheists” have all spoken in defence of human and democratic rights. They have been assertive on these issues when many liberals have preferred to acquiesce against Islamic and other religious threats and customs in the belief they were advancing multiculturalism</p>
<h2><strong>The hostile response</strong></h2>
<p>The richarddawkins.net web site <a href="http://richarddawkins.net/fleas">estimates publication of about 40 books</a> attacking the “New Atheists,” mainly in response to Dawkins <em>“The God Delusion.”</em> Study of “New Atheism” and <em>“The God Delusion”</em> have even been incorporated into some theological education programmes.</p>
<p>Stenger discusses some of the reaction by authors like John Haught <em>(<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/066423304X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=066423304X">God and the New Atheism: A Critical Response to Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens</a><img style="border:none!important;margin:0!important;" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=kenperrott&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=066423304X" border="0" alt="" width="1" height="1" /> &#8211; 2008), </em>Dinesh D’Souza <em>(<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1414326017?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1414326017">What&#8217;s So Great about Christianity</a> &#8211; 2007)</em> and Alister McGrath <em>(<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/083083446X?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=kenperrott&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=083083446X">The Dawkins Delusion?: Atheist Fundamentalism and the Denial of the Divine</a> – 2007). </em>Many of their arguments and claims are of course straw men and easily disposed of. However, Stenger does devote several chapters to subjects like the problem of evil, supernatural claims, the nature of science, faith and evidence, compatibility of religious and scientific views, human consciousness, morality and “being good without a god.”</p>
<p>This makes the book useful as a summary of the whole subject providing the arguments of both sides on all the important areas.</p>
<h2><strong>Some scientific issues</strong></h2>
<p>I was personally pleased that Stenger provides authoritative and informed rejection of some of the religious apologetics attacks on, and misrepresentation of, science used by these “New Christians.” He demolishes the arguments for a god based on formation of the universe (the “big bang” and “the singularity”) and “fine-tuning” of physical constants. I discussed the first issue (the cosmological argument) in <a title="Permanent Link to Godless cosmology" href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/../2009/10/05/godless-cosmology/">Godless cosmology</a>.</p>
<p>Stenger argues far more believers accept the cosmological design agenda behind the “fine-tuning” argument than biological intelligent design (ID). Theologians who won’t have a bar of ID will use “fine-tunign” arguments. However, he shows that is wishful thinking, that many of the claimed examples of “fine-tuning” just are not true (see <a title="Permanent Link to Fiddling with “fine-tuning”" href="http://openparachute.wordpress.com/../2009/01/12/fiddling-with-fine-tuning/">Fiddling with “fine-tuning”</a>) and the argument usually assumes that physical constants can be varied independently.</p>
<p>I also like the way he rejects the claim made by apologists, and some defenders of science, that science cannot study the “supernatural.” That the scientific paradigm restricts itself to only natural phenomena.  <em>“Is this supposed to mean that scientists would ignore a miracle if they saw one?”</em> I would add of course not! They would rush to investigate it with thoughts of Nobel Prizes in mind. After all – what are miracles but phenomena that appear to defy natural logic because we don’t yet understand them? And investigation and understanding are what scientists specialise in.</p>
<p>Critics of the New Atheists often accuse them of “scientism” – the idea <em>“that science is the only means that can be used to learn about the world and humanity”.</em> I have been accused of that myself. So am pleased Stenger disposes of this charge with the assertion these critics <em>“cannot quote a single new atheist who has said that. We fully recognise the value of and participate in other realm of thought and activity such as art, music, literature, poetry, and moral philosophy. At the same time, where observed phenomena are at issue, we insist that scientific method has a proper role. This includes questions of the supernatural and the existence of any god who actively engages in the affairs of the universe.”</em></p>
<p>Another chauvinistic Christian assertion Stenger denies is that Christianity was somehow responsible for the rise of modern science. <em>“Maybe, as many Christian apologists claim, Western religions helped science develop by their own looking outward for God. However, I am not ready to give religion too much credit since science goes back centuries before Jesus to the axial age in Greece.”</em></p>
<h2><strong>Eastern religion</strong></h2>
<p>Stenger supports suggestions from Sam Harris and Susan Blackmore that atheists should appreciate some of the insights of Buddhism and others spiritualists and mystics of the east. They believe these can help us in understanding of our own minds and in developing a calm attitude towards life. Practises such as meditation can be stripped of their dogma and supernatural explanations and help encourag mental health.</p>
<p>There is little to fault with this book. Stenger writes in his usual style. A style that is readable, economical and clear. One rather parochial criticism – he is wrong in his claim that atheists form a majority in New   Zealand. The 2006 census showed 32% of the population claiming no religion. Statistics on belief are always difficult to obtain and interpret and unfortunately he does not provide a reference for his assertion.</p>
<p>So, take that with a grain of salt. But if the subject interests you, whatever, your personal religious belief, this is a book you should read.</p>
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